Combine Law Code

[Benzin]

Well, this is a relic from the first server to run a HL2RP. When I was in ninth grade I printed these out and read them front to back in school.

Anyway, these aren't necessary, just felt like sharing. Give them a cursory glance. This is what the judicial side of the Combine's rule enforcement looks like

[Fiskov]

"A small edit, anyone is free to use this as long as they provide proper credit to DSRP at the top of the post."

all kudos to a guy named kenji for keeping for keeping this up on his website for all these years. thanks for giving him credit, benzin ^_^

[Benzin]

Oh I didn't even see that. Thanks Kenji, and DSRP.

[Jacksonian]

This "law code" has always been highly impractical. No one ever ends up reading or using it. Honestly, the only thing the CLC has ever been used for is the neverending DSRP circlejerk in claiming this is some huge contribution to GMod RP.

[Fiskov]

This "law code" has always been highly impractical. No one ever ends up reading or using it. Honestly, the only thing the CLC has ever been used for is the neverending DSRP circlejerk in claiming this is some huge contribution to GMod RP.

that's the whole idea lol.

[koopa]

>starship

[Jacksonian]

This "law code" has always been highly impractical. No one ever ends up reading or using it. Honestly, the only thing the CLC has ever been used for is the neverending DSRP circlejerk in claiming this is some huge contribution to GMod RP.

that's the whole idea lol.

I meant "highly impractical" in the sense that there's not much of a point in posting it here.

[Fiskov]

This "law code" has always been highly impractical. No one ever ends up reading or using it. Honestly, the only thing the CLC has ever been used for is the neverending DSRP circlejerk in claiming this is some huge contribution to GMod RP.

that's the whole idea lol.

I meant "highly impractical" in the sense that there's not much of a point in posting it here.

the sentence following was a bit misleading, my mistake, however I'm curious to know why a good bit of fluff that covers the almost unmentioned topic of the judicial system - something which I'd consider pretty damn vital - is "highly impractical."

[Snaggy]

its one of those things that will probably never be used but its nice to have as fluff and specifics in lore, some people like stuff like that

[koopa]

the sentence following was a bit misleading, my mistake, however I'm curious to know why a good bit of fluff that covers the almost unmentioned topic of the judicial system - something which I'd consider pretty damn vital - is "highly impractical."

Too much of it focuses on injustices suffered by citizens (see: most level three offenses), and I have a gripe with the idea of a judicial system even existing in the HL2 world.

[Fiskov]

the sentence following was a bit misleading, my mistake, however I'm curious to know why a good bit of fluff that covers the almost unmentioned topic of the judicial system - something which I'd consider pretty damn vital - is "highly impractical."

Too much of it focuses on injustices suffered by citizens (see: most level three offenses), and I have a gripe with the idea of a judicial system even existing in the HL2 world.

it's safe to say the severity is ascending rather than descending, with level 3 being mostly irrelevant, warranting a passing beating. something has to exist in some form for sentence to be passed on criminals, that's indisputable, the form and style is all that should be debated. We know that dispatch 'charges' criminals, and while the charges may seem to suggest implicit guilt, this'd just stifle some of the more adventurous misdemeanors.

so some form of controlling the population exists, it would be far easier to coerce and keep loyal individuals who cared for justice and upholding some form of law. (Reasons why people become law enforcement employees for example.) If it was something that appeared to take into account the ordinary citizenry, then it would be easier. a piece of 'legislation' that only gives the impression of protection for the population, but allows the glorious combine machine to subjugate their citizenry without overtly showing it fits quite well. civil protection, law code, plusgood, etc. the brief mention of political conscripts could account for the authors, humans knowing how best to subjugate and dehumanise their fellow man, after all. and in some twisted logic being written only to help those 'lesser' beings.

the issue of the overwatch voice/dispatch being an AI may question the reasoning behind this, an omnipresent judge and jury not needing some arbitrary law code, which just seems like a refuge for sophists. there would still need to be something in 'human terms', i don't see how that's debatable.

( i cant contain the nerd oh god help me)

[koopa]

it's safe to say the severity is ascending rather than descending, with level 3 being mostly irrelevant

duh

a piece of 'legislation' that only gives the impression of protection for the population, but allows the glorious combine machine to subjugate their citizenry without overtly showing it fits quite well. civil protection, law code, plusgood, etc. the brief mention of political conscripts could account for the authors, humans knowing how best to subjugate and dehumanise their fellow man, after all. and in some twisted logic being written only to help those 'lesser' beings.

Okay, that's fine. Appearance and justification are all good just as long as people are aware (OOC, that is) that behind closed doors, los empleados humanos del Combine don't need such to go fuck citizens up.

And this is kind of irrelevant, but I don't understand why you mentioned "plusgood"—I don't want to become another Nineteen Eighty-Four knockoff.

[Fiskov]

it's safe to say the severity is ascending rather than descending, with level 3 being mostly irrelevant

duh

a piece of 'legislation' that only gives the impression of protection for the population, but allows the glorious combine machine to subjugate their citizenry without overtly showing it fits quite well. civil protection, law code, plusgood, etc. the brief mention of political conscripts could account for the authors, humans knowing how best to subjugate and dehumanise their fellow man, after all. and in some twisted logic being written only to help those 'lesser' beings.

Okay, that's fine. Appearance and justification are all good just as long as people are aware that behind closed doors, los empleados humanos del Combine don't need such to go fuck people up.

And this is kind of irrelevant, but I don't understand why you mentioned "plusgood"—I don't want to become another Nineteen Eighty-Four knockoff.

check out my edited stuff, i didn't want to double post and you replied during editing, derp.

i referenced newspeak because civil protection is precisely that, hoping to evoke that similar feeling from totalitarian regimes tilted in favour (or against the majority/ordinary joe, depending on how you look at it.) also lets not forget they the civil protection aren't really with the combine, or their employees, they want to keep them controlled as well as the ordinary citizen, enough force to keep people in line is okay, but too much and you'll start grudges. (wanton killing etc etc)

i've a feeling we're on the same page when it comes to a literal judiciary derp.

[Johnston]

I'd like to note that DSRP was hardly an infallible entity when it came to HL2RP-- ours was more of a beta HL2RP than a 'canon' HL2RP. We took certain liberties with the setting, as any community does, and thus it shouldn't be taken as the return of Christ. Room should be made for adjustment.

DSRP is essentially the foundation that modern HL2RP sits upon, which is both good in familiarity and bad in rigidity. All HL2RP communities follow a basic design: Civil Protection vs citizens. One is subjugating the other. The question being asked, I think, is to what extent we should embrace this subjugation, and how it should be handled.

An argument against the CLC is that it lays out Civil Protection in a manner that is almost predictable, and can bog down roleplay with somewhat irrelevant regulations and rules. While rules are no doubt necessary in HL2RP, especially amongst those that hold power, I don't believe bogging down the process is ever a good idea. CPs should be, in essence, human, as opposed to unfailingly rigid and rule-abiding.

A certain flexibility needs to be understood, of course. A middle ground between the robotic Combine and the organic humans should be achieved. While the CLC is good for roleplay that inherently involves it (for instance, when a citizen is being charged), it should not be in everyday conversation, and its memorization shouldn't be enforced. This is one of the deviations we should take from canon HL2RP-- spouting a string of numerical values isn't exactly fun, when you could just say 'Jesus Christ, I'm being shot at'.

[BLODSTROK]

let's try not to turn this into a 1984 love/hate thread